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	<description>Some ideas from Ed Hui, who is old enough to use a slide rule and odd enough to think it's cool.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The misunderstanding of interactive whiteboards by The discovery of the Interactive Whiteboard &#171; Thinking about computers and teaching</title>
		<link>http://edhui.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-misunderstanding-of-interactive-whiteboards/#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>The discovery of the Interactive Whiteboard &#171; Thinking about computers and teaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] truly remarkable record of an early example of the misunderstanding of interactive whiteboards (see earlier post) Mr Clare describes admirably the advantages of having a computer in the classroom, and being able [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Forgetting the big experiment by The discovery of the Interactive Whiteboard &#171; Thinking about computers and teaching</title>
		<link>http://edhui.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/forgetting-the-big-experiment/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>The discovery of the Interactive Whiteboard &#171; Thinking about computers and teaching</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] discovery of the Interactive&#160;Whiteboard    I&#8217;ve written before on viewing history as experiment, with the present as the result, and noted how that way of thinking [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The misunderstanding of interactive whiteboards by edhui</title>
		<link>http://edhui.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-misunderstanding-of-interactive-whiteboards/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>edhui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 13:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just come across this innovation from 2006 that allows teachers to convert interactive whiteboards to ordinary whiteboards... sort of...
http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2006/03/07/the-john-clare-interactive-whiteboard/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just come across this innovation from 2006 that allows teachers to convert interactive whiteboards to ordinary whiteboards&#8230; sort of&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2006/03/07/the-john-clare-interactive-whiteboard/" rel="nofollow">http://advisorymatters.naaceblogs.org/2006/03/07/the-john-clare-interactive-whiteboard/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on The fishing rod by edhui</title>
		<link>http://edhui.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/the-fishing-rod/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>edhui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 07:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom
Thanks for your comment. I think you&#039;re right and I apologize to fly fishermen everywhere. Certainly fly tying is a craft and an art, and the nature of line as cast object is pretty difficult to replicate without a rod.

My only point of disagreement is that in my opinion, the smaller the fish the more dramatic the self delusion is when it is caught on a rod. It doesn&#039;t have to bend the rod to get the effect of the lever. So fly fishermen derive many benefits from their rods!

I often wonder also about the effect of concealment that water has- the surprise of seeing something appear from either the murk or the curtain of surface ripples.

In purely theoretical yet surreal terms, the art of fly fishing could be wonderfully applied to birds- the hardness of the beak making catching even more difficult. But think of the species! The common coarse birding with worms in the garden, to real fly birding for swallows and swifts on the wing. Or whacking great flies cast from cliffs for falcons. The cognitive dissonance of these things are wondrous to behold. I don&#039;t think the &#039;pain&#039; or &#039;higher animals&#039; arguments hold true- I find it difficult to imagine a sparrow or pigeon as a more sentient or worthwhile animal than a tuna. Albatrosses of course are being decimated by long line fishermen in the southern oceans- so in practical terms catching birds with hook and line is going on at a large scale even as I write.

Thanks for your comment. I was clearly wrong, or incomplete in the case of fly fishermen. I don&#039;t think the lever effect is entirely wrong for all fishermen, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom<br />
Thanks for your comment. I think you&#8217;re right and I apologize to fly fishermen everywhere. Certainly fly tying is a craft and an art, and the nature of line as cast object is pretty difficult to replicate without a rod.</p>
<p>My only point of disagreement is that in my opinion, the smaller the fish the more dramatic the self delusion is when it is caught on a rod. It doesn&#8217;t have to bend the rod to get the effect of the lever. So fly fishermen derive many benefits from their rods!</p>
<p>I often wonder also about the effect of concealment that water has- the surprise of seeing something appear from either the murk or the curtain of surface ripples.</p>
<p>In purely theoretical yet surreal terms, the art of fly fishing could be wonderfully applied to birds- the hardness of the beak making catching even more difficult. But think of the species! The common coarse birding with worms in the garden, to real fly birding for swallows and swifts on the wing. Or whacking great flies cast from cliffs for falcons. The cognitive dissonance of these things are wondrous to behold. I don&#8217;t think the &#8216;pain&#8217; or &#8216;higher animals&#8217; arguments hold true- I find it difficult to imagine a sparrow or pigeon as a more sentient or worthwhile animal than a tuna. Albatrosses of course are being decimated by long line fishermen in the southern oceans- so in practical terms catching birds with hook and line is going on at a large scale even as I write.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment. I was clearly wrong, or incomplete in the case of fly fishermen. I don&#8217;t think the lever effect is entirely wrong for all fishermen, though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The fishing rod by Tom</title>
		<link>http://edhui.wordpress.com/2009/03/31/the-fishing-rod/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 19:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there, 

Firstly i&#039;d like to say that I have read some of your posts with interest, after a link from the Karate forum!

As a relative of a keen angler and with some interest of my own i&#039;d like to perhaps give another viewpoint on the use of Rods, in responce to your suggestion that anglers use them primarily to make fish appear larger than they are. (I know this wasn&#039;t what your post was primarily concerned of course).

Something you didn&#039;t mention was the use of rods for fake casting, in relation to fly fishing. This is a technique used to allow plenty of line to be thrown out onto the water so that the angler can retrieve the flies (home tied in my relatives case) by hand, and allowing enough slack so the line can be &#039;rolled&#039; through thier fingers in order to mimick the behaviour of a spider or nymph on the water surface. This is something that would be far more difficult to achieve with just some line and a hook, concerning the distance, presentation and of course how much line you can cast out onto the water.

This shows that the rod came in to play as a tool for enhancing technique. 

Certainly, all the anglers in sport fly fishing i know are not phased by size of the fish, its the experience of tying your own fly and outsmarting fish with them. Plus, most of them only fish rivers, containing wild trout (brown trout locally), which are an average of 2lb in weight. These kind of fish dont put much of a bend in the rods, and certainly wont be leading to any self dilusion!

So in answer to your question earlier in the post, I&#039;d say you were being a bit unfair about the generalisation in that the millions of sport fishermen all over the world are using rods to make fish look larger!

Thanks for the read, 
Regards, 
Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there, </p>
<p>Firstly i&#8217;d like to say that I have read some of your posts with interest, after a link from the Karate forum!</p>
<p>As a relative of a keen angler and with some interest of my own i&#8217;d like to perhaps give another viewpoint on the use of Rods, in responce to your suggestion that anglers use them primarily to make fish appear larger than they are. (I know this wasn&#8217;t what your post was primarily concerned of course).</p>
<p>Something you didn&#8217;t mention was the use of rods for fake casting, in relation to fly fishing. This is a technique used to allow plenty of line to be thrown out onto the water so that the angler can retrieve the flies (home tied in my relatives case) by hand, and allowing enough slack so the line can be &#8216;rolled&#8217; through thier fingers in order to mimick the behaviour of a spider or nymph on the water surface. This is something that would be far more difficult to achieve with just some line and a hook, concerning the distance, presentation and of course how much line you can cast out onto the water.</p>
<p>This shows that the rod came in to play as a tool for enhancing technique. </p>
<p>Certainly, all the anglers in sport fly fishing i know are not phased by size of the fish, its the experience of tying your own fly and outsmarting fish with them. Plus, most of them only fish rivers, containing wild trout (brown trout locally), which are an average of 2lb in weight. These kind of fish dont put much of a bend in the rods, and certainly wont be leading to any self dilusion!</p>
<p>So in answer to your question earlier in the post, I&#8217;d say you were being a bit unfair about the generalisation in that the millions of sport fishermen all over the world are using rods to make fish look larger!</p>
<p>Thanks for the read,<br />
Regards,<br />
Tom</p>
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		<title>Comment on The misunderstanding of interactive whiteboards by Landry Chan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Landry Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I just want to emphasize something(anyhow,  the software is only a tool for you). And I do learn a lot from your article. Thanks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on The misunderstanding of interactive whiteboards by edhui</title>
		<link>http://edhui.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-misunderstanding-of-interactive-whiteboards/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>edhui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve just had a look at dabbleboard. Nice. I&#039;ll be checking it out properly when I have time.
Ed</description>
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Ed</p>
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		<title>Comment on The misunderstanding of interactive whiteboards by edhui</title>
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		<dc:creator>edhui</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Creativity with a capital C? Assuming you&#039;re not advertising a piece of software and just saying you need to be creative, well one could also argue that creativity allows you to teach just as well without one!
But both comments agree with one of the points I&#039;m making- it&#039;s the software that makes the big contribution. The little bit of heresy is the realisation that many of the big effects are due to the software alone, and nothing to do with the input/interactivity of the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Creativity with a capital C? Assuming you&#8217;re not advertising a piece of software and just saying you need to be creative, well one could also argue that creativity allows you to teach just as well without one!<br />
But both comments agree with one of the points I&#8217;m making- it&#8217;s the software that makes the big contribution. The little bit of heresy is the realisation that many of the big effects are due to the software alone, and nothing to do with the input/interactivity of the board.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The misunderstanding of interactive whiteboards by Zohair</title>
		<link>http://edhui.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-misunderstanding-of-interactive-whiteboards/#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>Zohair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 09:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! I&#039;ve felt this way for some time too, that IWBs get too much credit for the interactivity, credit that&#039;s really due to the computer+software. The Finns seem to have it right though; our partner in Finland informs me that most classrooms there have projectors, and very few have IWBs.

Disclaimer: I work at a company called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dabbleboard.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dabbleboard&lt;/a&gt; that makes whiteboarding software, and so it&#039;s in our interest for people to choose the computer+software+projector combo over IWBs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! I&#8217;ve felt this way for some time too, that IWBs get too much credit for the interactivity, credit that&#8217;s really due to the computer+software. The Finns seem to have it right though; our partner in Finland informs me that most classrooms there have projectors, and very few have IWBs.</p>
<p>Disclaimer: I work at a company called <a href="http://www.dabbleboard.com" rel="nofollow">Dabbleboard</a> that makes whiteboarding software, and so it&#8217;s in our interest for people to choose the computer+software+projector combo over IWBs.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The misunderstanding of interactive whiteboards by Landry Chan</title>
		<link>http://edhui.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/the-misunderstanding-of-interactive-whiteboards/#comment-26</link>
		<dc:creator>Landry Chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 02:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>White boards are very helpful for interactive training. Just like some courseware tools such screen recording software and PowerPoint to Flash presentation application, thay are some ways to improve the teaching and learning experience. How to get the best training effect? The key is Creativity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White boards are very helpful for interactive training. Just like some courseware tools such screen recording software and PowerPoint to Flash presentation application, thay are some ways to improve the teaching and learning experience. How to get the best training effect? The key is Creativity.</p>
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